DAF HASHAVUA-Who is Reb Meir

The Gemoro (according to our girsa) says that R. Meir’s original name

was not R. Meir but R. Nechemya . Others say his name was R. Elazar

ben Aroch. He was also called R. Nehorai.

 

R. Chananel has a different girsa in the Gemoro.

R. Meir’s original name was R. Meyosha.*  They called him R.Meir

because he lit up the eyes of the Chachamim in Halacha.

 

There was  another Tana who was called R. Nehorai , his original

name was R. Nechemya or R. Elazar ben Aroch. They called him

R. Nehorai , also for the same reason that he lit up the eyes etc.

 

The Seder Hadoros writes that R.Chananel ‘s girsa is the correct one

There were two different Tanaim , one R.Meir and the other R. Nehorai.

* The Rambam in Hakdama to his Pirush Hamishnayos enumerates

37 Tanaim who are mentioned in Mishna only once. One of them

is R.Meyosha. (seems to argue with R. Chananel who claims it is R. Meir)

 

PS.  1) Eloko dMeir Aneini  does not refer to the Tana R. Meir.

       2) R. Meir Ba’al Haness does not refer to the Tana R. Meir.

GUT SHABBOS

Eloko D'Meier Aneini

Eloko D'Meier Aneini Who is this Meier ? Is it the a) Tanna R.Meier b) R. Meier Ba'al Haness c) R. Meier Permishlan d) None of the above                      A freilichen und LECHTIGEN Chanukah The obvious answer should be the Tanna R.Meier. According to the Maharsha (avoda zarah 18a) It can’t  refer to the Tanna R.Meier because he was still alive. In his lifetime he would not use his own name attached to  Hashem. The Maharsha says that Meier is not a name. It is a word, the one who lights up the world. (Hamei’ir La’aretz  V’ladarim  Aleha) Or it refers to the G-D who lit for  us during the times of the Greeks with the ness of Chanukah candles.

 

Who was Rabbi Meir Baal Haness?

Who was Rabbi Meir Baal Haness?

We all are familiar of the Tana R.Meir. His original name was Meisha .

 They called him R. Mier because he lit up the eyes of the chachamim

in halacha. (Eruvin  13b).

R. Mier was niftar in Asia (Chutz Laaretz)  He asked that his body be

placed on the sea being E.Y. is surrounded by 7 seas. (Yerushalmi  Kelaim perek 9  hl.3)

According to the  Yerushalmi it is not clear if his body ever ended up  buried in E.Y.

One of the first sources  that mentions R. Mier’s  burial  place in E. Y. is in the

Sefer Gelilos Haaretz. He writes that R. Mier is buried in the city of Tveryah.

The Seder Hadoros  quotes the same  Sefer Gelilos Haaretz  who writes  R. Yitzchock

 from Gush Chalav and R. Mier Baal Haness are both buried in Gush Chalav. The

Seder Hadoros continues that he doesn’t know who they were. (Seder Hadoros  never

heard of  R. Mier  Bal Haness.)

Sefer Zichron Yackov  (vol 2 p 30) writes about the pushkas  that were  named

after  an ish  chasid  v’kadosh who lived in eretz hakodesh a few hundred years

ago. He was famous – and was called R. Mier Bal Haness.

Two of the greatest frum historians (R. Yechiel Heilprin, Seder Hadoros  & R. Yackov

Lipshutz ,Zichron Yackov ) both held , R. Mier Bal Haness  is not  the Tana R.Mier.

1)        R.M. is buried in Tveryah    RMBH is buried in Gush Chalav

       2)         Seder Hadoros doesn’t know who R.M.B.H. was

       3)         Zichron Yackov claims R.M.B.H. lived a few hundred years ago

            R.M. lived two thousand years ago.

               4)       To donate  L’iluy  nishmas a Tana  who was niftar 2,000 years ago

                           sounds  very strange and maybe even chutzpadik.

                           A neshama from 2000 years has reached it’s peak a long time ago.

5)        The term Baal Haness is not found in Shas.  In  Shas

                    we only find the melumad banisim.

There are thousands of yidden who go to the kever of the Chasam Sofer

and come back claiming they have been to the kevarim of the Chasam Sofer and

his father in law R. Akiva Eiger.

The truth is that the R. Akiva Eiger buried in Pressburg (next to the Ch S.) is not

the famous shver  Of the Ch. Sofer.  He is the grandfather of R. Akiva Eiger the shver .

He was Rov In Pressburg for 11 days, hence buried in Pressburg.

R. Akiva Eiger the shver is buried in Posen.