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Thursday, October 7, 2021

Hopefully you will agree with me. DAF YOMI beitza 38

 

DAF YOMI
              ביצה ל"ח



The גמרא says that when ר' אבא went to 

 Eretz Yisroel, he davened :


 “יהא רעוא דאימא מילתא דתתקבל “

The גמרא continues and says: 


ר' אבא tried to answer a question asked by


the חכמים but they repeatedly laughed at 

him. 


ר' אושעיא defended the חכמים laughing at ר' אבא.

The חתם סופר (O.Ch. 208) writes that the חז"ל 
who were laughing at ר' אבא were trying to teach us
 that it is wrong to daven that your words should be
accepted by others. If you believe something to be
true, then it doesn’t matter if others agree with you
or not. It is not important for you to convince others
to change their minds to agree with you.

It is very puzzling, because the חתם סופר himself
in Teshuva# 60 O.Ch. starts his answer to a שאלה 
with the exact same תפילה:
ויהא רעוא דאימא מלתא דתתקבל     

Perhaps, we can explain this contradiction of Der
Heiligeh Zaidah.

Teshuva #60 deals with a situation after the War
n 1809, when the city of Pressburg lay in ruins.
Hundreds of homes were destroyed and damaged 
by the shells fired across the Danube by Napoleon's
Army. Close to two hundred houses were totally
burned down to the ground. Many other homes
were damaged and were inhabitable.

Winter was approaching, and homes were desperately 
needed. The שאלה was if it was permissible to allow
Goyim to build and repair the houses on Shabbos.

The חתם סופר was desperate to be מתיר and found 
a היתר that he wasn't altogether comfortable with. He 
writes that he wouldn’t rely on his היתר unless other
Rabbanim would agree with him.

The תפילה of ויהא רעוא דאימא מלתא דתתקבל  that the 
חתם סופר davened for, wasn't that his opponents 
should change their minds and agree with him.
Such a  תפילה would be wrong.

The חתם סופר davened that the other Rabbanim 
would also agree with his היתר so that the homeless
Yidden shouldn’t have to suffer any longer.
אמבצי

 

 

 

Sunday, September 19, 2021

“יהא רעוא דאימא מילתא דתתקבל “

Chasam Sofer

Beitzah 38a

The Gemoro says , When Reb Aba went to Eretz Yisroel, he Davened :


“יהא רעוא דאימא מילתא דתתקבל “


The Gemoro continues and says -Reb Aba tried to answer a question asked by the Chachomim but they laughed at him. When he asked them why they were laughing at him they laughed again.


Reb Oshiya  said the Chachomim were justified in laughing at Reb Aba.

The Chasam Sofer (O.Ch. 208) asked what message is Chazal trying to teach us by embarrassing Reb Aba?


The Chasam Sofer answers:

Chazal  teach us that it is wrong to Daven, that your words should be acceptable to others. If you believe something to be true  then it doesn’t matter if others agree with you or not. It is not important for you to convince others to change their minds and agree with you.


It is very interesting, the Chasam Sofer   in Teshuva # 60  O.Ch. starts his answer to the Sheilah with a Tefillah


ויהא רעוא דאימא מלתא דתתקבל     ??


This question was asked in the Torah journal "Kerem Shlomo" (year 15 # 5 pg.61 By a Rabbi Katz. There are a few answers given by the readers.

Perhaps we can add one more answer. There are times when a Rav Paskens a Sheilah where the hardship of the outcome of the Psak Lechumra, is not taken into consideration.

There are other times  when it is very important for the Rav to consider the hardship his Psak might cause if he Paskens Lechumra.

(הפסד מרובה,עגונה, etc.)

 It’s very likely, the Chasam Sofer would agree that for such Sheilo it is proper to Daven that the other Rabonim should agree with his Heter. His Tefilla is not that he should win over with his opinion.

His Tefillah is- that others agree with him so he can give a Psak Lekulah and the Shoel shouldn’t suffer any hardship.

Teshuva #60 deals with, After the War in 1809 the city of Pressburg lay in ruins. Hundreds of homes were destroyed and damaged by the shells  shot across the Danube by Napoleon's Army. Close to two hundred houses were totally burned down to the ground.

Many other homes were damaged and inhabitable. Winter was approaching and new homes were desperately needed. The Sheilah was if you can allow Goyim to build and repair the houses on Shabbos.

The Chasam Sofer desperately, wanted to be Matir.  He
came up with a Heter he wasn't comfortable with. He
writes that he wouldn’t rely on his Heter unless
the other Rabanim  agreed with him. His Tefilla was they
should agree with his Heter so the Yidden shouldn’t

have to suffer any longer

Thursday, September 2, 2021

מס' ביצה DAF YOMI

 

The מגן אברהם או"ח קנ"ו quotes from the ים של שלמה
"One should keep his language clean therefore
instead of using the word ביצים, one should say ביעים"

Hence, , some refer to the Mesichta as, מס' ביעא
instead of מס' ביצה

The תפארת ישראל argues on the מג"א and says the 
reason for changing ביצה from לשון הקדש
to לשון ארמית  ביעא is because of the story in the גמרא
where the townspeople mixed up the word מי ביצים
(liquid egg) with מי בצעים (swamp water) and
a מכשול in טומאה came out of it.
From then on, we use the Aramaic word ביעא,


Many ראשונים refer to the  מסכת ביצה as מסכת יום טוב

 

 




 

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