Wednesday, August 4, 2021

Forcing The Angles



שיחת מלאכי השרת
רש"י - לא ידענא מאי היא

רש"י writes that he doesn't what  שיחת מלאכי השרת is

The רשב"ם ב"ב קל"ד  writes "להשביעם" - understanding the
language of the מלאכים in order to force a שבועה on them.

Kabbalists had a  practice of forcing an oath on the מלאכים

משביעין את המלאכים ). The Kabbalist claimed that

Hashem gives permission to the מלאכים  to do as they
are commanded (by humans) even if the recipients are not
worthy and have no זכויות for the favour. 

There used to be a Minhag for חזנים to force an oath
on the מלאכים.

The חזנים were concerned, an עין הרע will cause
them to lose their voice during Davening.
 (ימים נוראים) 


The חזנים had a Nusach they said, before saying המלך.

בשם שמעי' -------(שמות של מלאכים)---- אני פלוני בן פלוני
משביע אני עליכם שתסייעו לי שאתפלל היום בקול רם
ונעים וערב ואל יחר גרוני ואל ילאה רוחי וכוחי

(In the name of the מלאכים --- I Ploni the son of Ploni,
place a שבועה on you (מלאכים) that you will help me to
Daven today with a voice that is loud, pleasant, and sweet,
and my throat shouldn’t anger (cough) and my spirit
and strength shouldn’t tire.)  

The לבוש (O.Ch.584) was against this השבעה (oath).
He claims it is wrong to believe that one can force  
Hashem to accept his Tefillos.
The acceptance of Tefillos is dependant on the כוונת הלב,
and not by force.

The לבוש was also critical against the חזנים for saying the
Nusach right before המלך.  After ברוך שאמר is considered
a הפסק. 

The לבוש suggested totally eliminating this Nusach.  and if
not possible, then it should be said before ברוך שאמר.

Perhaps, the מחלוקת between the לבוש & מקובלים
goes back to רש"י & רשב"ם






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